Scott asked this question in a comment.
I know this has probably been covered elsewhere, but can we unpack the role of godly parents who have grown children that have walked away from the Lord.
A hypothetical (all too common one): college daughter chooses to cohabit with boyfriend. Gives ultimatum laced with bitterness. “Either you accept my lifestyle or have nothing to do with me.”
Is there a manner in which hurting parents may or should communicate the path to forgiveness? Should this be frequently repeated? Should estrangement be accepted? That is to say, if the daughter chooses to place unreasonable conditions on their relationship, should the parents find ways to stay connected (emails, calls, cards, and etc.)? How best can they show love, forgiveness, truth, holiness?
Finally, what absolutes are essential in such an arrangement?
First, if you read nothing else, read John and Abraham Piper’s post below.
Working through such a situation can only be done through biblical wisdom. Biblical wisdom doesn’t grow like weeds in the flower bed. We have to cultivate it through having our minds renewed in the Scripture, being with other believers, and hearing the Word preached. So, the first thing I would say to parents in such a situation (and there are many) – - – grow as a believer.
From there, several things should be wisely held in tension. This is a blog post – - not a book – - so this answer will be rough!
- Pray and ask others to pray. Don’t allow your own pride to prevent you from asking others to pray. Pray on your knees. Journal your prayers. Fast and pray. Walk and pray. Pray, pray, pray.
- Support your church if it works through church discipline with one of your children. Paraphrasing Bonhoeffer, there is nothing crueler than the “love” that consigns another to his or her sin. If your church is willing to confront your child, then don’t get upset about that. Praise God for godly leaders. Understand that such confrontation is precisely what God may use to bring your son or daughter back, though there may be anger in the short run (1 Cor 5:5, Matt 18, esp 15-18). Your pastors and elders won’t be perfect in the process. They will make mistakes – - we always do. But, God is pleased to use His church despite our imperfections.
- Keep a relationship with your son or daughter if at all possible. Always extend grace and love. E-mail. Send gifts. Pray for them.
- Do not make the sin the central issue of every conversation. Be clear. Warn them. As someone has said, “Choose to sin, choose to suffer.” Express concern. But, then, don’t continually bring it up. (I don’t have chapter and verse for this – -).
- Don’t make provision for the sin. If your child is involved in a wrong relationship, you may allow the other person to come to dinner. But, I wouldn’t allow them to sleep together in my home!
- Don’t enable the sin. Parents do their children no favors if they given them money to buy more drugs. Of course, giving a child over to the consequences of his or her sin is unbelievably difficult. You need the support of your local church!
- Grow your own marriage. The parents of rebellious children will know extra pressure on their marriage. Grow together in Christ. Don’t allow distance to grow because of tensions over a wayward child. Where there is distance and there are wounds, unpack forgiveness today – - I know of a book I would recommend on forgiveness. . .
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John Piper and his son Abraham have written some excellent posts on this subject after Abraham’s time of rebellion.
My son Abraham, who speaks from the wisdom of experience and Scripture, has written the article that follows. I read it with tears and laughter. It is so compelling that I asked him immediately if I could share it with the church and the wider Christian community. There is no greater joy than to see your children walking in the truth—and expressing it so well. The rest is Abraham’s untouched. -John Piper
Many parents are brokenhearted and completely baffled by their unbelieving son or daughter. They have no clue why the child they raised well is making such awful, destructive decisions. I’ve never been one of these parents, but I have been one of these sons. Reflecting back on that experience, I offer these suggestions to help you reach out to your wayward child.
1. Point them to Christ.
Your rebellious child’s real problem is not drugs or sex or cigarettes or pornography or laziness or crime or cussing or slovenliness or homosexuality or being in a punk rock band. The real problem is that they don’t see Jesus clearly. The best thing you can do for them—and the only reason to do any of the following suggestions—is to show them Christ. It is not a simple or immediate process, but the sins in their life that distress you and destroy them will only begin to fade away when they see Jesus more like he actually is.
2. Pray.
Only God can save your son or daughter, so keep on asking that he will display himself to them in a way they can’t resist worshiping him for.
3. Acknowledge that something is wrong.
If your daughter rejects Jesus, don’t pretend everything is fine.
For every unbelieving child, the details will be different. Each one will require parents to reach out in unique ways. Never acceptable, however, is not reaching out at all. If your child is an unbeliever, don’t ignore it. Holidays might be easier, but eternity won’t be.
4. Don’t expect them to be Christ-like.
If your son is not a Christian, he’s not going to act like one.
You know that he has forsaken the faith, so don’t expect him to live by the standards you raised him with. For example, you might be tempted to say, “I know you’re struggling with believing in Jesus, but can’t you at least admit that getting wasted every day is sin?”
If he’s struggling to believe in Jesus, then there is very little significance in admitting that drunkenness is wrong. You want to protect him, yes. But his unbelief is the most dangerous problem—not partying. No matter how your child’s unbelief exemplifies itself in his behavior, always be sure to focus more on the heart’s sickness than its symptoms.
5. Welcome them home.
Because the deepest concern is not your child’s actions, but his heart, don’t create too many requirements for coming home. If he has any inkling to be with you, it is God giving you a chance to love him back to Jesus. Obviously there are some instances in which parents must give ultimatums: “Don’t come to this house if you are…” But these will be rare. Don’t lessen the likelihood of an opportunity to be with your child by too many rules.
If your daughter smells like weed or an ashtray, spray her jacket with Febreze and change the sheets when she leaves, but let her come home. If you find out she’s pregnant, then buy her folic acid, take her to her twenty-week ultrasound, protect her from Planned Parenthood, and by all means let her come home. If your son is broke because he spent all the money you lent him on loose women and ritzy liquor, then forgive his debt as you’ve been forgiven, don’t give him any more money, and let him come home. If he hasn’t been around for a week and a half because he’s been staying at his girlfriend’s—or boyfriend’s—apartment, plead with him not to go back, and let him come home.
6. Plead with them more than you rebuke them.
Be gentle in your disappointment.
What really concerns you is that your child is destroying herself, not that she’s breaking rules. Treat her in a way that makes this clear. She probably knows—especially if she was raised as a Christian—that what she’s doing is wrong. And she definitely knows you think it is. So she doesn’t need this pointed out. She needs to see how you are going to react to her evil. Your gentle forbearance and sorrowful hope will show her that you really do trust Jesus.
Her conscience can condemn her by itself. Parents ought to stand kindly and firmly, always living in the hope that they want their child to return to.
7. Connect them to believers who have better access to them.
There are two kinds of access that you may not have to your child: geographical and relational. If your wayward son lives far away, try to find a solid believer in his area and ask him to contact your son. This may seem nosy or stupid or embarrassing to him, but it’s worth it—especially if the believer you find can also relate to your son emotionally in a way you can’t.
Relational distance will also be a side effect of your child leaving the faith, so your relationship will be tenuous and should be protected if at all possible. But hard rebuke is still necessary.
This is where another believer who has emotional access to your son may be very helpful. If there is a believer who your son trusts and perhaps even enjoys being around, then that believer has a platform to tell your son—in a way he may actually pay attention to—that he’s being an idiot. This may sound harsh, but it’s a news flash we all need from time to time, and people we trust are usually the only ones who can package a painful rebuke so that it is a gift to us.
A lot of rebellious kids would do well to hear that they’re being fools—and it is rare that this can helpfully be pointed out by their parents—so try to keep other Christians in your kids lives.
Read the whole thing here.



I need prayer. Our daughter left home at 16…almost 30 years ago as she delved into witchcraft etc. over the years there have been times where we’ve tried to reconnect and all have ended in disaster. Usually she calls when she’s in financial straits and many times we’ve helped. I don’t know if it’s a spirit of deception or mental illness, but she always remembers them differently than we do. As an expample, we paid for a year of living expenses, bought a car and started paying for a trade school. We even flew to where she was to take care of her daughter (which she’d just won visitation for with our help) she turned on us, hid the daughter, and when we checked into a hotel threatened our lives. We withdrew our support at that time and she had to drop out of school. She remembers that we withdrew support because she failed a class. I am stunned.
Well, she’s in trouble again, and condemning our Christianity because we won’t help her. We’ve done it so many times with no fruit to show for it. She’s very strong and uses the Word of God against us. I have been sick all night long thinking my salvation is in jeapordy from the things she said to me. My husband says I am to have no contact with her. She loves to use her power (occult) to cast spells and tie us up in knots.
I don’t know why I’m writing a blog. I am just struggling…I know God is good. I know I am not. She says that when he sees me He will say when I was hungry you didn’t feed me, or clothe me…begone I never knew you. It’s almost more than I can bear.
Hi Noelle,
I am thankful you took the time to write and ask for prayer. I am thankful you are not enabling more rebellion.
I cannot imagine the pain you face after so many years of rebellion from your daughter. But I pray that the Lord will grant you strength and peace.
I also pray that if you don’t have a Gospel centered local church, that God will soon help you find one.
1 Peter 5:7-8,
Pastor Chris Brauns
Dear Noelle,
Those of us here on this site ALL have wondered,like you,why we were writing blogs to people we did not know…we, too knew we were in deep agonizing pain. At times that pain would drive me to grief that incapacitated me..I am an RN…working in a Neuro-Trauma ICU. I had to leave my job..I had become so paralyzed by the pain and agony our daughter had put us through. I could not properly concentrate in my field. Six years later, things have been like yours…trouble comes to her court…she calls for our help…financial, etc..we repaired the car, paid car insurance, which was so expensive because she had poor credit…you name it, we did it. Our granddaughter, who just turned a year old a few weeks ago…to give her our birthday gifts and well wishes…we had to meet her in a restaurant…not at her trailer. My daughter, like your daughter, uses our Christianity…and KNOWS it is a soft spot with me…to get what she wants. She plays the part of the victim quite well. Like your daughter, I have discovered that she had become involved with the occult some years before. Your daughter has NO CLUE what our Lord Jesus is going to say to you…and what she says is not so!!!! Listen to your husband…pray the prayer of safe keeping for your grandchild(ren). That is what we are doing. We cannot enable that rebellious behavior. Love her…but love her in prayer and from a distance. She is dangerous…as is our daughter. Your daughter, our daughter…need help…and that is help we cannot give them…but He can send them to that place of help without us getting in the middle. My husband and I have totally stood back. We are moving clear across the state to get away from the situation. We need to move on. We both felt it is time to make a break for it…and get on with life…
We are praying for you and your family..
“Cast all your cares upon Him, for He cares for you.”
This day, my heart was overwhelmed and is now overflowing. Today in church we released the chains of guilt and condemnation. I didn’t sleep last night and had some pretty ugly physical problems from anxiety. My husband “pulled the plug” on my communication with my daughter but her words of Him saying to me “I never knew you” had already taken root. I was considering not going to church and certainly not taking communion..too guilty. But today, Jesus met me … again. He spoke to my spirit “Noelle, hear my voice…I love you and will in no way cast you out”. Then when we prayed to bind the spirits of guilt and condemnation I began to slightly feel a freedom. I had a terrible headache and stomache ache too. When we went out to breakfast after church, I really couldn’t eat much.
Ah but now…the headache is going, my stomache feels better and this perfect freedom is starting to wash over me. While I feel almost guilty to cut the communication, I am listening to my husband..respecting what he says..and submitting to that. I know there is wisdom in it…it is just so hard. it is a spiritual battle “grande”. I know it is an attack from the enemy…from the pit of hell…but He IS greater who is in me. And, I remember Ephesians 6, I am not battling against my daughter but spiritual wickedness in high places. Praise God, the battle has been won.
Louise, I really valued your words…you’ve been there…you know. I so want to help my daughter back to the Lord, but He’s God, I am not. He will deliver her in His way and in His time. I, like you, am removing myself from her. I cannot stay in this quagmire of emotional upheaval. I will..and am…putting my complete trust and faith in Him. Not only for her, but for me also. Maybe a spirit of self righteousness had crept in. I DON’T deserve salvation and never will. His grace is new every morning and this day I choose His grace.
Thanks again for writing and for praying for me. Thank you, Lord for your gift of salvation and for the Body of Christ who acts as your hands, feet and heart when we are in need. Praise Him Praise Him
Noelle,
Amen! He is the healer of broken hearts…broken spirits, brokenness! None of us deserve that precious gift of salvation..He gave it to us…freely…because His love for us is so great…we cannot even understand it. He loves our lost daughters and/or sons…He knows the hearts. He is their Savior too…but it will be His undertaking..with our prayers. Remember,He does stand making intercession with the Father continuously. I know all too well the physical and emotional upheaval these circumstances can bring upon us…and imprisoning our thinking every minute of the day. God is good…ALL THE TIME! He loves you…He loves your daughter…NOT the SIN. We will both stand back and watch the Salvation of God Almighty for us…and for our lost lambs. God’s Peace, Sister!
Louise