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	<title>Comments on: Words of Constructive Criticism in the Ongoing Conversation About Unpacking Forgiveness</title>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do remember wishing that there was a warning before the story of the car accident.  I read this right before bed and I have to say that I had a difficult time falling asleep afterwards.  However, there are also passages of Scripture that I wouldn&#039;t choose to read right before falling asleep.  From what I&#039;ve read of Scripture, God doesn&#039;t shy away from harrowing stories.
The stories pointed me to see how petty my forgiveness stories really are and far above, how powerful the gospel and costly the Cross.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do remember wishing that there was a warning before the story of the car accident.  I read this right before bed and I have to say that I had a difficult time falling asleep afterwards.  However, there are also passages of Scripture that I wouldn&#8217;t choose to read right before falling asleep.  From what I&#8217;ve read of Scripture, God doesn&#8217;t shy away from harrowing stories.<br />
The stories pointed me to see how petty my forgiveness stories really are and far above, how powerful the gospel and costly the Cross.</p>
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		<title>By: FieryByDesign</title>
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		<dc:creator>FieryByDesign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say when I first read the illustrations my first thought was I could have done without reading that.  I tend to be very cautious about what I read or view because I have a tendency to remember things a little too vividly.  Things stick with me.  It&#039;s probably an after effect from my own traumatic past.  Whatever it is it&#039;s something I know about myself and am careful about.  

With that said though I do not feel they took away from the book.  I believe they served an important role.  The reality is those illustrations ARE reality.  They are the real issues we unfortunately have to deal with.  I do not believe we can sanitize this world as Christians.  When you deal with hard topics you get hard illustrations.  (Just think if we sanitized the Bible itself of graphic illustrations.  We&#039;d lose multitudes of pages!)

Now did they trouble me?  Yes.  Did they stick with me?  Most definitely.  I believe the reason for them though is what matters...did they help me?  Yes, yes they did.  I do not believe the book would have been the same with simple, sappy illustrations.  

That&#039;s just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say when I first read the illustrations my first thought was I could have done without reading that.  I tend to be very cautious about what I read or view because I have a tendency to remember things a little too vividly.  Things stick with me.  It&#8217;s probably an after effect from my own traumatic past.  Whatever it is it&#8217;s something I know about myself and am careful about.  </p>
<p>With that said though I do not feel they took away from the book.  I believe they served an important role.  The reality is those illustrations ARE reality.  They are the real issues we unfortunately have to deal with.  I do not believe we can sanitize this world as Christians.  When you deal with hard topics you get hard illustrations.  (Just think if we sanitized the Bible itself of graphic illustrations.  We&#8217;d lose multitudes of pages!)</p>
<p>Now did they trouble me?  Yes.  Did they stick with me?  Most definitely.  I believe the reason for them though is what matters&#8230;did they help me?  Yes, yes they did.  I do not believe the book would have been the same with simple, sappy illustrations.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with the others who have already posted, Chris. I don&#039;t think that your illustrations went too far, but did quite well in the purpose they were meant to serve. 

I could possibly understand some questioning the use of the movie &quot;A Time to Kill&quot; for various reasons. 

I also agree that it is encouraging to see your humble response to his criticisms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with the others who have already posted, Chris. I don&#8217;t think that your illustrations went too far, but did quite well in the purpose they were meant to serve. </p>
<p>I could possibly understand some questioning the use of the movie &#8220;A Time to Kill&#8221; for various reasons. </p>
<p>I also agree that it is encouraging to see your humble response to his criticisms.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Michael Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. Michael Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

I really appreciate your view concerning the conversation that is a book, and your ability to read and absorb various reviews is commendable.  We tend to get very attached to what we write, but it is the ability to separate and receive feedback that enhances the &quot;conversation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I really appreciate your view concerning the conversation that is a book, and your ability to read and absorb various reviews is commendable.  We tend to get very attached to what we write, but it is the ability to separate and receive feedback that enhances the &#8220;conversation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Stauffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Stauffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you handled the illustrations well. I appreciate your humility in considering whether or not you went too far, but I&#039;d say you did a great job with sensitive real-life stories. 

Theologically speaking, since God is sovereign, we must take a deep breath and learn what He&#039;s teaching us from the most difficult situations in life. 

Use extreme examples. The extremes are sometimes real life for some people and helpful for bringing perspective to less extreme situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you handled the illustrations well. I appreciate your humility in considering whether or not you went too far, but I&#8217;d say you did a great job with sensitive real-life stories. </p>
<p>Theologically speaking, since God is sovereign, we must take a deep breath and learn what He&#8217;s teaching us from the most difficult situations in life. </p>
<p>Use extreme examples. The extremes are sometimes real life for some people and helpful for bringing perspective to less extreme situations.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, 

Thank you for posting this review.  

For whatever it is worth, the illustrations worked for me.  Mr. Walker is right to say that some of the examples were very &quot;harrowing&quot; to read. However, I feel they served an important purpose.  On a personal level, it assured me that the teacher who was asking me to line up biblical truth with my experience understood that my experience was just that - &quot;extreme&quot; and &quot;unpleasant&quot;.  On this topic, where so much of the teaching out there is trivial and superficial, the examples helped me to trust that the author had &quot;complex&quot; and &quot;deep&quot; in mind.  So, to that extent, I felt the illustrative points were not just value added but necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, </p>
<p>Thank you for posting this review.  </p>
<p>For whatever it is worth, the illustrations worked for me.  Mr. Walker is right to say that some of the examples were very &#8220;harrowing&#8221; to read. However, I feel they served an important purpose.  On a personal level, it assured me that the teacher who was asking me to line up biblical truth with my experience understood that my experience was just that &#8211; &#8220;extreme&#8221; and &#8220;unpleasant&#8221;.  On this topic, where so much of the teaching out there is trivial and superficial, the examples helped me to trust that the author had &#8220;complex&#8221; and &#8220;deep&#8221; in mind.  So, to that extent, I felt the illustrative points were not just value added but necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia (Pollywog Creek)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia (Pollywog Creek)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our small group spent several weeks reading and discussing UF and though we were not afraid to express differing thoughts, no one expressed an opinion that your illustrations were too graphic or violent.

As a victim of a violent crime, I tend to avoid reading the situations you described as a way of protecting my mind, but I found them helpful in UF for two reasons: 1)I was reminded that if the Christians involved in those situations could forgive and/or be forgiven, then so could I, and 2) I was convicted regarding those &quot;superficial sleights&quot; when compared to the deep and painful wounds in far more intense situations. 

JMHO. But if the description of these situations are too offensive to some, maybe a disclosure up front would be helpful.

Let me take this opportunity to once again thank you for writing this book, Chris. I thought I had a good understanding of Biblical forgiveness until I read UF. Not only did I resolve a few issues I had buried as we worked through UF with our small group, but I have had multiple opportunities to use what I learned in my relationships since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our small group spent several weeks reading and discussing UF and though we were not afraid to express differing thoughts, no one expressed an opinion that your illustrations were too graphic or violent.</p>
<p>As a victim of a violent crime, I tend to avoid reading the situations you described as a way of protecting my mind, but I found them helpful in UF for two reasons: 1)I was reminded that if the Christians involved in those situations could forgive and/or be forgiven, then so could I, and 2) I was convicted regarding those &#8220;superficial sleights&#8221; when compared to the deep and painful wounds in far more intense situations. </p>
<p>JMHO. But if the description of these situations are too offensive to some, maybe a disclosure up front would be helpful.</p>
<p>Let me take this opportunity to once again thank you for writing this book, Chris. I thought I had a good understanding of Biblical forgiveness until I read UF. Not only did I resolve a few issues I had buried as we worked through UF with our small group, but I have had multiple opportunities to use what I learned in my relationships since.</p>
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