Comments on: Note to the Publishing Industry: We, the Readers, Loathe Endnotes http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/ The Web Site and Blog of Pastor Chris Brauns Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:03:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Die, Endnotes, die! « The Wanderer http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/comment-page-1/#comment-2648 Die, Endnotes, die! « The Wanderer Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:59:53 +0000 http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/#comment-2648 [...] a comment » I could not agree more with Chris Brauns: the age of endnotes should end in darkness.  All hail the rebirth of the [...] [...] a comment » I could not agree more with Chris Brauns: the age of endnotes should end in darkness.  All hail the rebirth of the [...]

]]> By: Jeremy Walker http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/comment-page-1/#comment-2647 Jeremy Walker Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:58:08 +0000 http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/#comment-2647 I cannot think of a way in which I could be more in agreement. Endnotes are a crime against reading humanity. I cannot think of a way in which I could be more in agreement. Endnotes are a crime against reading humanity.

]]> By: mike wittmer http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/comment-page-1/#comment-2622 mike wittmer Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:32:53 +0000 http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/#comment-2622 Chris: I couldn't agree more. My publisher told me that we had to use endnotes so we wouldn't discourage the average reader. Said it would look too academic. I'm just glad that I know what my endnotes say so I don't have to flip back there! Chris:

I couldn’t agree more. My publisher told me that we had to use endnotes so we wouldn’t discourage the average reader. Said it would look too academic. I’m just glad that I know what my endnotes say so I don’t have to flip back there!

]]> By: Dan Phillips http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/comment-page-1/#comment-2613 Dan Phillips Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:04:13 +0000 http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/#comment-2613 Oh, Chuck, that's a literary crime. Warren Wiersbe is TERRIBLE about throwing around all sorts of wonderful quotations with nary a citation. I'm on the other end of the extreme on that. Oh, Chuck, that’s a literary crime.

Warren Wiersbe is TERRIBLE about throwing around all sorts of wonderful quotations with nary a citation. I’m on the other end of the extreme on that.

]]> By: Chuck http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/comment-page-1/#comment-2604 Chuck Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:07:53 +0000 http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/#comment-2604 Yes, I MUCH prefer footnotes to endnotes. What is even more alarming to me, though, is that I'm reading more and more books by Christian authors where others are quoted yet there is no note whatsoever to indicate who they are quoting. I really don't like that. Yes, I MUCH prefer footnotes to endnotes. What is even more alarming to me, though, is that I’m reading more and more books by Christian authors where others are quoted yet there is no note whatsoever to indicate who they are quoting. I really don’t like that.

]]> By: Paul http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/comment-page-1/#comment-2599 Paul Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:39:22 +0000 http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/#comment-2599 I read every note, whether end or foot! I recall in my Greek class pointing out a footnote in Carson's Showing the Spirit that directly contradicted Stanley Porter's Idioms of New Testament Greek. Dr. Blomberg went and checked and agreed with Porter over Carson (his mentor while at TEDS). Thus, every note is important and the add'l labor to turn the pages or bookmark the endnotes while reading is worth the effort. Having said that... I HATE ENDNOTES because I sometimes get caught up reading things along the journey to the back of the book!! (Of course, that's really not the endnotes fault, now is it?) Okay...I feel better now ;-> I read every note, whether end or foot! I recall in my Greek class pointing out a footnote in Carson’s Showing the Spirit that directly contradicted Stanley Porter’s Idioms of New Testament Greek. Dr. Blomberg went and checked and agreed with Porter over Carson (his mentor while at TEDS). Thus, every note is important and the add’l labor to turn the pages or bookmark the endnotes while reading is worth the effort. Having said that…

I HATE ENDNOTES because I sometimes get caught up reading things along the journey to the back of the book!! (Of course, that’s really not the endnotes fault, now is it?)

Okay…I feel better now ;->

]]> By: Mike Walters http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/comment-page-1/#comment-2598 Mike Walters Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:55:01 +0000 http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/#comment-2598 I guess I'm the fifth. Please, o please get rid of endnotes! I guess I’m the fifth. Please, o please get rid of endnotes!

]]> By: Dan Phillips http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/comment-page-1/#comment-2597 Dan Phillips Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:42:37 +0000 http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/#comment-2597 Oh. My. Gosh. I will second, third, and FOURTH that. My little readership knows what acid any publisher is in for if a book I review has endnotes. I just cannot for the LIFE of me see ANY sense in it. The day when footnotes made typesetting-by-hand more difficult is long, long gone. The excuse that they "bother" readers... oh, sticklebats. Look, if you don't like them, you don't have to look for them. But if you read them — as the author means you to be able to read them — then the reader shouldn't have to have <i>two bookmarks</i> in his book, one where he's really reading, and one at the end of the chapter or end of the book. It really is ridiculous and insulting to both author (you didn't really need to write that footnote) and reader (you're too stupid to deal with footnotes). Not that I have a strong opinion about it, mind. Oh. My. Gosh.

I will second, third, and FOURTH that.

My little readership knows what acid any publisher is in for if a book I review has endnotes. I just cannot for the LIFE of me see ANY sense in it. The day when footnotes made typesetting-by-hand more difficult is long, long gone. The excuse that they “bother” readers… oh, sticklebats.

Look, if you don’t like them, you don’t have to look for them. But if you read them — as the author means you to be able to read them — then the reader shouldn’t have to have two bookmarks in his book, one where he’s really reading, and one at the end of the chapter or end of the book.

It really is ridiculous and insulting to both author (you didn’t really need to write that footnote) and reader (you’re too stupid to deal with footnotes).

Not that I have a strong opinion about it, mind.

]]> By: Josh Gelatt http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/comment-page-1/#comment-2596 Josh Gelatt Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:53:39 +0000 http://www.chrisbrauns.com/2009/09/21/note-to-the-publishing-industry-we-the-readers-loathe-endnotes/#comment-2596 Oh my goodness yes! yes! yes! Endnotes are simply horrendous. But, truthfully, we are perhaps a dying breed my friend. My guess is most readers would rather there by no such notes at all (endnotes or otherwise). Such is life when we are ad fontes people in a non fontes world. Oh my goodness yes! yes! yes! Endnotes are simply horrendous. But, truthfully, we are perhaps a dying breed my friend. My guess is most readers would rather there by no such notes at all (endnotes or otherwise).

Such is life when we are ad fontes people in a non fontes world.

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